mAVIE; great idea, but your a little late. i've been throwing the time card in jw's face for years. i just love catching jw's counting time and not preaching. i bring it to their attention every time how they are counting time doing NOTHING. JOHN
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How to Get a JW to think about Field Service
by mavie ini was having dinner and good conversation tonight.
i was relating some of my past to a close friend.
i was describing the field service arrangement and in particular how field service is reported.
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Run in with cousin over the letter I sent the family
by dawg inas many of you are aware, i've been writing letters to many in my family telling them where i disagree with the wt; imagine how surprised i was when my cousin invited me to his kid's graduation knowing that there were sure to be many witnesses there who i assumed whoud be in the mood for confrontation.
of course i went, as i'm trying a new policy of not backing down from the witnesses; using reverse psycology to try and get them ashamed of being witnesses instead of them trying to make me feel bad about my disssent.
after the graduation, my older cousin, who's much like a real brother to me said that we needed to talk.
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johnny cip
dawtg ; you went way over all of your jw families heads with your knowledge. and you are right to an extent. about the pyramids and occolt, the wt printed the the pyramid is the bible in stone. b uilt under the guidence of jehovah, they in to astrology saqing when jeputier and uranus align in 1914 will be the end. they were into a lot of quack occult ideas , just read ken raines site "jw research". http://www.premier1.net/~raines/ . dawg your smart you kept them on the defensive. you can never let up. keep the petal to the metal. you got your cousin right were you want him. now YOU NEED THE ATOMIC BACK BREAKER. and here it is. remind your family they are studing the rev. climax book. and that book keeps saying thaqt what they were teaching in 1919 etc was proper spritual food at the proper time from jah. then you list each of your false teaching one at a time. after you mention each false teaching. STOP AND ASK STRAIGHT OUT . WAS THAT PROPER SPRITUAL FOOD FROM JEHOVAH/ DID JEHOVAH TELL THE WT TO TEACH THIS GARBAGE? KEEP USING THE SAME LINE OVER AND OVER they will get the point. make a really big deal about this. the bottom line if it was false teaching 100 years ago , and the wt knows it , then why in jah's name are they calling it TRUTH today. i can drill a jw on this one topic for hours. and never lose. use rev 20;10 about false prophets getting thrown into the pit of fire , and gal 1;6-9 about false gospel ie. 1914 also remember to keep saying jehovah hates a false witness/liar. every time a jw wants to read me a bible verse, I tell them since they are preaching a false gospel of 1914 that none of the apostles ever preached and they are not in the NEW COVANTANT THEY ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO READ OR TEACH ME FROM THE BIBLE. works every time. john
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I'm so excited, i'm going to see Beyonce in concert.
by free2think inso i'm going to see madam bootylicious herself in concert in a couple of hours and i just thought i'd share this with you lovely people and ask your opinion.
it has been said that she has become over exposed of late, as she seems to be everywhere.
i don't think so personally, i say good luck to her.
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johnny cip
beyonce. can really sing. know know a bit about vocalists, and music marketing. and unlike a lot of prentenders, she's the real deal. i say give her a few more years and she will one of the best of the last 10 years. just wanted to add she's working with some really hot producers, she can do pop, rock, r&b,soul. i would guess she could even pull off some up tempo country. she can act white when she has to , and act overly black when the need arises, bottom line is she's very good and being marketed very well
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Is there a big "push" going on right now?
by robhic ina couple of jws just left my door.
they started out by trying to give me an invitation to an upcoming convention.. i politely declined and said it was difficult and that i didn't get out much, anyway.
we didn't spend much time talking but i almost felt sorry for the poor man (it was a husband & wife) because he really, really wanted to give away some literature!
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johnny cip
looking glass; i know it's like they are begging for a cup of coffee or money to buy booze, crack, etc. the problem with the jw's you meet every day . is they haven't met any strong apostates. to make them eat every word they spout. you have to stop and expose them for the false teacher they are. try stopping when the jw are talking to some other passerbyer. and ask the jw's to tell this person about some of their false prophecies etc. and press them infront of someone that may not know better. it only takes a few minutes. you will make the jw backpeddle. and maybe save a few people. after you do this for a while the jw's will run when they see you walking down the street. you have now controled the street. at your time of walking down it. you can do alot in 2 minutes. scaring your fellow citizens about the wt good luck. john
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inactive a year
by changeling inthis month marks a year since i reported fs.
i can't remember the last time i felt this proud of an accomplishment.
i have come a long way in my de-programing.
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johnny cip
i agree the TIME COUNTING has to be one of the biggest turnoff's about the wt. i always asked why do you need a time slip jehovah knows my every move. i could never get a straight answer. but i hearde a lot of BS. plus preaching a false gospel will not get you any points with god.
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Jehovah's Witness Radar----Do You Have It?
by minimus insome people can spot a "gay" person by using their built-in "gaydar".. can you spot a witness easily?
what are the signs that this person must be a witness??
tell us about you "jwdar".....(prounounced jawaydar)..
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johnny cip
OK minimus; i'll humor one of your questions. i can smell a jw a mile away. without my glasses on. but it can be tricky on sundays . as other people also get dressed up for chruch. heres were a closer look in needed. first check for a wt mag rolled up in the hand. or what kind of bible they maybe carrying the bookbag is a big givaway. if i'm befuddled i will go up and ask what church they go to . and ask them how was service today. most of the time they will tell me the church and ask if i'm a christian. i will say yes i am. they will say god bless you. and i will tell them to enjoy the love of christ... christian are always happy you stopped to talk to them. and the jw's get mad you stopped to talk to them.
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Is there a big "push" going on right now?
by robhic ina couple of jws just left my door.
they started out by trying to give me an invitation to an upcoming convention.. i politely declined and said it was difficult and that i didn't get out much, anyway.
we didn't spend much time talking but i almost felt sorry for the poor man (it was a husband & wife) because he really, really wanted to give away some literature!
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IT'S THE SAME OLD PUSH . get jw's out there in the spring when the weather is nice. i watch jw's and they do next to nothing in fs. i sat for an hour in my car just watching about 20 jw's cover less than 2 blocks about 40 houses. most of them just stood on the corner. talking to each other. they wanted to talk to NOBODY . THE STREET WORK IS A JOKE i watch jw's walking down busy avenues. with a tract or wt rolled up in their hands and never offer it to one of dozens of passerbyers. but they are counting TIME. i catch this real old jw almost every day standing in the hot sun alone. sweating in his suit at a gas station from like 8-12 noon he never even goes up to the gas pumps, to talk to anyone. he just stands there on this dead corner of the gas station. with a wt in his hand. there is no walking traffic were he stands./ only cars wizzing bye. i used to stop and talk to him. but many times he told me he was too busy. so i asked him busy doing what? ALL THE PEOPLE ARE AT THE GAS PUMPS your standing here preaching to no one. he told me he was giving a witness for jehovah by holding up a wt mag to the passing traffic.!!!!!!!!!!!! i truely feel sorry for the man. but i know he gets in lots of hours smelling car fumes. john
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So I called Bethel a few days ago...
by Kudra ini pretended to be a student in a sociology of religion class at a university i made up... middlebury community college in dallas texas... :p .
i said i was doing a report on how different denominations deal with the litigation, mitigation and media coverage of abuse allegations... .
i said that i was wondering if the coverage i had seen all over the internet about the payout to the victims in california would be covered (and when) by the media page on the jw website.
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johnny cip
call back again but get some wt lawyers name first. off this site. you will do much better asking for a person than just asking to speak to some one. try asking for J.R. BROWN public relations dept, and remember to control the conversation. you made a great point telling them how un helpful they are conpared to other churches.
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Revelation: It's Divine Fulfillment A Done Deal!
by Nathan Natas infrom studies in the scriptures, vol.
vii, "the finished mystery:.
ha ha ha ha ha!
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johnny cip
nathan; by posting this great knowledge, your going to make the price of the "finished mystery" go up on e bay. i better grab a copy before they go over $300. and any honest hearted lover of truth. can clearly see that if you add 360 years to the year 1518 . you get that god choose the wt in 1878... i thought all the earthquakes that meant anything all happened after 1914. but i stand corrected 1755 was a great year of jehovah to cause earthquakes. maybe you can post the page that says you add 1260 years to the year 539A.D. and you get the time of the end started in 1799. i just love bible truth and the gospel age from 1874-1914.
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Call the WT 718 560 5000
by Vernon Williams inhey guys,.
call the watch tower and tell them you want to talk to someone about this or that and, then,.
vent.
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vernon' just try asking the wt operator your questions. the people at bethel are stupider than you advrage jw. ask to speak to brother shit in his brains j.r. brown